Comments on: TABs vs Spaces. The end of the debate. http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/ About myself and programming Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:09:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Jeremy Banks http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-34735 Jeremy Banks Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:33:59 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-34735 I like using tabs for indentation because it allows multiple editing the same code to use whatever scale of indentation that they want, assuming they're using an editor that allows them to set the width of tabs. It just seems more friendly, since you don't forge everyone reading your code into the same indentation depth as you use. Obviously, I use spaces for alignment. I like using tabs for indentation because it allows multiple editing the same code to use whatever scale of indentation that they want, assuming they’re using an editor that allows them to set the width of tabs. It just seems more friendly, since you don’t forge everyone reading your code into the same indentation depth as you use.

Obviously, I use spaces for alignment.

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]]> By: Salvatore Iovene http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-13916 Salvatore Iovene Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:58:08 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-13916 Mike (#16), you got the point completely. :) Mike (#16), you got the point completely. :)

]]> By: Mike http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-13915 Mike Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:42:31 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-13915 Nick Westgate (#6), you totally missed the point. The article explicitly states that tabs should not be used for alignment. YOU draw the conclusion that tabs are therefore evil, and spaces should be used, disregarding the articles statement that for indenting tabs vs. spaces is a useless discussion nobody can win. So to conclude, once again, don't use tabs for aligment. For indenting use tabs or spaces. Period. Nick Westgate (#6), you totally missed the point. The article explicitly states that tabs should not be used for alignment. YOU draw the conclusion that tabs are therefore evil, and spaces should be used, disregarding the articles statement that for indenting tabs vs. spaces is a useless discussion nobody can win.

So to conclude, once again, don’t use tabs for aligment. For indenting use tabs or spaces. Period.

]]> By: Stefan Persson http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-1917 Stefan Persson Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:52:16 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-1917 I totally agree with the aricles view on using spaces for alignment, and have an Emacs question: Since I want to use tabs for indentation (so people can view it as they want) and spaces for my alignment, it would be great if the auto-indent (pressing ) functionality used tabs, and pressing C-q produced spaces. But the variable 'indent-tabs-mode' that switches spaces/tabs-behaviour, unfortunately changes it for BOTH situations so that I can't mix the styles as I want. What do to, what to do...? I totally agree with the aricles view on using spaces for alignment, and have an Emacs question: Since I want to use tabs for indentation (so people can view it as they want) and spaces for my alignment, it would be great if the auto-indent (pressing ) functionality used tabs, and pressing C-q produced spaces. But the variable ‘indent-tabs-mode’ that switches spaces/tabs-behaviour, unfortunately changes it for BOTH situations so that I can’t mix the styles as I want. What do to, what to do…?

]]> By: Francois Hill http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-1817 Francois Hill Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:41:45 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-1817 I was thinking of writing an article on that ... but there, you've said it all. Many coders I see around me still don't get the difference between the uses of tab and space. Any people advocating the use of one over the other, or pointing out a fantasized shortcoming of the "tab method" (including Nick Westgate) have still not got it and are a waste of office space ! ;oP I was thinking of writing an article on that … but there, you’ve said it all.

Many coders I see around me still don’t get the difference between the uses of tab and space.

Any people advocating the use of one over the other, or pointing out a fantasized shortcoming of the “tab method” (including Nick Westgate) have still not got it and are a waste of office space ! ;oP

]]> By: jc http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-630 jc Tue, 15 May 2007 20:04:39 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-630 I'm a tab person myself. But spaces has won out. Conform or die. Long live spaces. I’m a tab person myself. But spaces has won out. Conform or die.

Long live spaces.

]]> By: Salvatore Iovene http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-623 Salvatore Iovene Tue, 15 May 2007 11:02:40 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-623 @mystilleef, comment #7 Hi. The purpose of this article wasn't to promote spaces over tabs. I'm ok with both. The only problem is that tabs must not be used for aligning, like in the variables of the struct mentioned in the article. @mystilleef, comment #7

Hi. The purpose of this article wasn’t to promote spaces over tabs. I’m ok with both. The only problem is that tabs must not be used for aligning, like in the variables of the struct mentioned in the article.

]]> By: mystilleef http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-622 mystilleef Tue, 15 May 2007 10:45:09 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-622 I'm a text editor developer. And nothing is more repugnant to me than seeing people use spaces for indentation. Apart from the fact that it makes all text processing operations difficult, the most annoying thing about spaces is that it disobeys the indentation preferences of users. I've rewriting in detail about this on my blog. http://mystilleef.blogspot.com/2006/11/indentation-with-spaces-considered.html PLEASE use tabs for indentation. For usability and accessibility purposes. If you don't care about these or you don't care about the preferences of people reading your code, then use spaces. Cheers I’m a text editor developer. And nothing is more repugnant to me than seeing people use spaces for indentation. Apart from the fact that it makes all text processing operations difficult, the most annoying thing about spaces is that it disobeys the indentation preferences of users. I’ve rewriting in detail about this on my blog.

http://mystilleef.blogspot.com/2006/11/indentation-with-spaces-considered.html

PLEASE use tabs for indentation. For usability and accessibility purposes. If you don’t care about these or you don’t care about the preferences of people reading your code, then use spaces.

Cheers

]]> By: Nick Westgate http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-619 Nick Westgate Tue, 15 May 2007 07:24:28 +0000 http://www.iovene.com/tabs-vs-spaces-the-end-of-the-debate/#comment-619 "... his code would be as he meant it whatever indenting style one’s editor would use." The above is only true if the aligned text does not span different levels of indentation. This is the real reason why tabs are evil (for some users, in some situations). For those of us who think that visual presentation of the source can be important to understanding its semantic content, spaces and fixed with fonts are the way to go. Cheers, Nick. “… his code would be as he meant it whatever indenting style one’s editor would use.”

The above is only true if the aligned text does not span different levels of indentation. This is the real reason why tabs are evil (for some users, in some situations).

For those of us who think that visual presentation of the source can be important to understanding its semantic content, spaces and fixed with fonts are the way to go.

Cheers,
Nick.

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